tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post1821355835931265243..comments2024-02-10T05:10:34.854-05:00Comments on The Balog: MKM Open Thread (Feb. 1 2012)IMGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01896814779096110550noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-57056443962392067522012-02-02T05:42:44.156-05:002012-02-02T05:42:44.156-05:00I'm so confused.
-Sgt Bronze HammerclawI'm so confused. <br /><br />-Sgt Bronze HammerclawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-37151596036627798182012-02-01T20:02:42.520-05:002012-02-01T20:02:42.520-05:00Hi everyone! The dungeon is dark and cold, but ot...Hi everyone! The dungeon is dark and cold, but otherwise I'm doing okay. They let me outside for 8 minutes a day. Gotta go!The Real Phin, For Realnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-42096550196397183672012-02-01T19:16:13.673-05:002012-02-01T19:16:13.673-05:00I think that's hilarious, but it's probabl...I think that's hilarious, but it's probably because I pioneered the fish courtroom drama genre. <br /><br />Look for the next installment in my<i>Sal Mon</i> series, <b>In Cod We Trust?</b>, in which our intrepid Jamaican-born merman questions the separation of Perch and Skate.BronzeHammernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-87359719261225323662012-02-01T18:47:16.109-05:002012-02-01T18:47:16.109-05:00God help me, I am on a terrible run. In the Charle...God help me, I am on a terrible run. In the Charles Barkley post I was about to post a picture of a fish and then write out a cease and desist letter ordering Barry to stop using the word "crappy" in relation to the NBA because it was damaging to my client's reputation. That is fucking TERRIBLE, but I was laughing so hard at the idea. <br /><br />What the hell is wrong with me?StuartScottsEyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-23837925847956620962012-02-01T13:16:43.784-05:002012-02-01T13:16:43.784-05:00If anyone is reading this blog, you should know th...If anyone is reading this blog, you should know that every single comment here, including this one, was made by IMG. He has created a fantasy world where the made-up people that he has made-up conversations with at night come to his made-up blog and have more made-up conversations about his fantasies.<br /><br />So if you have made it this far, run.This Blog Will Someday Be Exhibit "A"noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-64252851441264716762012-02-01T13:07:22.167-05:002012-02-01T13:07:22.167-05:00Thanks for the clarification, Sharting.Thanks for the clarification, Sharting.Guesser of Namesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-10662117439828978212012-02-01T13:05:20.896-05:002012-02-01T13:05:20.896-05:00To be clear, the referenced joke was very funny. T...To be clear, the referenced joke was very funny. The "anonymous" above who is tilting at windmills (me) is not the same one posting here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-11804153634224342962012-02-01T12:58:01.282-05:002012-02-01T12:58:01.282-05:00Now that is the cogent analysis that we hope for. ...Now that is the cogent analysis that we hope for. +1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-46560377451180008582012-02-01T12:54:52.386-05:002012-02-01T12:54:52.386-05:00REALLY??? This qualifies somebody as a top quality...REALLY??? This qualifies somebody as a top quality veteran commenter? http://deadspin.com/5881293/victor-cruz-is-only-a-giant-because-rex-ryan-couldnt-keep-his-mouth-shut?comment=46572510#comments<br /><br />Fantastic insight - fat people are fat because they eat a lot. Did you ever think that maybe Rex Ryan has a glandular condition of some sort, or that he's just big boned, or maybe he's secretly diabetic (could explain the foot fetish) and he doesn't advertise his business to the whole world. <br /><br />You're probably a shitty doctor, Mantis Toboggan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-28719217097165656462012-02-01T12:49:11.934-05:002012-02-01T12:49:11.934-05:00That is a very fair point - I have to admit that I...That is a very fair point - I have to admit that I am biased by my perception that Hatey is a hack who established a misanthrope personality a few years ago and has coasted along since then while receiving support from new and/or insecure commenters who view giving +1's to the local legends as a path to relevance. <br /><br />As for Hammerclaw, I think he has a lot of talent - I was not intending to single him out for his own contributions, but rather for his willingness to support a ridiculous "hierarchy." I fell into the same trap a few years ago when I got my star, so I am admittedly biased.<br /><br />I'll leave it at that. I love what we, collectively, do here. My only point was to encourage us to be a bit more objective about who we promote so that our best efforts are consistently put forward to the vast majority of readers who have no idea who won COTY last year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-89269126103902025272012-02-01T12:45:26.018-05:002012-02-01T12:45:26.018-05:00I just saw the same thing. Hey, at least you have...I just saw the same thing. Hey, at least you have a thing now. I mean, other than stealing Same Sad Echo's acronym.Raysismnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-86628369066891246262012-02-01T12:39:52.127-05:002012-02-01T12:39:52.127-05:00Can't believe this guy in Blood Week did the S...Can't believe this guy in Blood Week did the StuartScottsEye thing and just made up a story. What a dick.<br /><br />/I'm reclaiming the phrase, so it doesn't hurt so bad when Raysism says it. It's pretty much just like the N word. Happy black history month.StuartScottsEyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-18282306312996385792012-02-01T12:38:26.294-05:002012-02-01T12:38:26.294-05:00I guess my initial reply got eaten by Blogspot. In...I guess my initial reply got eaten by Blogspot. In a more condensed version, I agree with you that +1ing regardless of name, etc. is something we SHOULD do, but am skeptical about how easy it is to do so. <br /><br />I would suggest your scrutiny of Hammerclaw's +1 is unfairly influenced by his status as a newly starred commenter, for instance. And, on the flip side, your concern about a +1 to a Hatey comment is influenced by your perception of him as overrated or over-praised. I'm just saying, it's hard to divorce your perception of the commenter from the comment itself.BronzeHammernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-22694019237308306312012-02-01T12:26:47.303-05:002012-02-01T12:26:47.303-05:00This would seem to fly in the face of bothering to...This would seem to fly in the face of bothering to mandate quality comments in the first place. As I understand it, the joke-makers are additional content for readers, many of whom consume it regularly without participating. Otherwise, it's a huge circle jerk, so why bother with the starring, the ninjas, etc.?<br /><br />And also, even if an unstarred/pink commenter got, by everyone's fair-handedness, the most +1 replies on a post, would that even be the featured comment? I don't honestly know how featuring comments works, but it seems always to be a starred commenter, thereby tacitly approving some aspects of our ridiculous hierarchy.<br /><br />Anyway, I agree that the cream should rise to the top, and that everyone should be judged fairly based only on the quality of their comment. I'm just saying it's not easy to do. At the very least, other people's perception of the joke (+1s or not) will influence yours (ok, I'll say mine to be less argumentative). I don't blindly +1 "funny" guys regardless of the quality of the joke, nor do I unilaterally ignore unstarred ones, but the presence of a star, commenting history, or praise from other commenters necessarily influences the incredibly subjective measure of humor. I think that's just the way it is.BronzeHammernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-30605846762061090182012-02-01T12:19:02.185-05:002012-02-01T12:19:02.185-05:00It's impossible to separate your appreciation ...<i>It's impossible to separate your appreciation for a joke from your perception of who's doing the joke-making</i><br /><br />Bullshit. We, the joke makers at Deadspin, are an absurdly small minority of daily readers. Those readers, to the extend that they look at the comments (and, in general, they do not), expect funny and/or insightful commentary. They do not know, and do not care, about the ridiculous hierarchy that we set up among ourselves. So, from the Deadspin point of view, the best thing you can do is agnostically promote and +1 the best comments you can so that the random visitor says "when I stopped by I saw this one featured comment which was really funny" and they come back to look for more comments like that.<br /><br />Artificially promoting the mediocre efforts of local heroes defeats that entire objective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-1454038498855572662012-02-01T12:01:48.669-05:002012-02-01T12:01:48.669-05:00"It's impossible to separate your appreci..."It's impossible to separate your appreciation for a joke from your perception of who's doing the joke-making"<br /><br />Why? That is patently absurd, especially in an online setting where we know each other only through avatars and screen names. Do you really expect me to believe that you don't read the thread of comments, laugh (or not) a few times, and then decide where you will give +1's based at least in part on the commenter to whom you are responding? <br /><br />More specifically to your comments - why does the new guy have to be that much better? 99% of Deadspin readers have no idea who any of us are - if they see a funny joke, they laugh. That is it. We should promote and +1 the funniest jokes so that the random readers who make up 99% of the population see our funniest material. Having them see a random Hatey or Hume pile of shit that was elevated because a few commenters are dying to ingratiate themselves with those folks is a waste of time and space for the readers who actually dictate Deadspin's success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-16533799944654750332012-02-01T11:59:17.716-05:002012-02-01T11:59:17.716-05:00To be honest, you're probably right about the ...To be honest, you're probably right about the approval thing. I've only been starred for about a month, and until I get comfortable with what constitutes an appropriate approval, I'm just avoiding it all together. As for a promotion or a +1 if it were somebody else, that's hard to say. If it were the exact same joke, I'd like to think I would have, but who knows. <br /><br />I also thought his delivery worked well for this joke. If he had just come out and said, "It's such a shame she's going to get her head cut off in the drug wars when she gets home" it wouldn't have worked at all, because that's not funny. Nuance matters with shock-value material like this, and I think Hatey does a good job crafting these jokes.<br /><br />A big part of Hatey's gimmick is derived from the persona he has developed for himself. Maybe you are better at separating a joke from the joke teller than I am, but if a joke like that comes from Hatey as opposed to a pink commenter with the name "JStevenson34", it's going to play differently. I generally enjoy Hatey jokes, and this was no exception.<br /><br />-Sgt Hammerclaw (got tired of switching back and forth between Google profiles)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-87939497385709935392012-02-01T11:55:22.506-05:002012-02-01T11:55:22.506-05:00mkm open thread poll: top 3 most overrated comment...mkm open thread poll: top 3 most overrated commentersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-92206550383704652152012-02-01T11:47:17.318-05:002012-02-01T11:47:17.318-05:00Let's stick to ripping on people who aren'...<i>Let's stick to ripping on people who aren't here to defend themselves.</i><br /><br />+1, agreed. <br /><br />As for "The voice of..." I'm not sure what is obnoxious in my comment. If S.H. asserts that he simply liked the joke, then I will accept it. But, something tells me that, if he is really honest, he will agree that his reaction was biased by the fact that he was responding to a supposed Deadspin legend ("legend" being defined for these purposes as someone who was here a few years ago).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-79536351572855177852012-02-01T11:47:11.480-05:002012-02-01T11:47:11.480-05:00@Anonymous
If you don't like the uphill climb...@Anonymous<br /><br />If you don't like the uphill climb as a newly-minted star, tough shit. It's impossible to separate your appreciation for a joke from your perception of who's doing the joke-making. Anyone who thinks that is deluded. Eventually, if you stick around long enough, you'll be appreciated. For me, the fact that I can't leave a B- comment out there and get showered with +1s is a motivating tool. A new guy has to be that much better. <br /><br />Incidentally, I thought it was funny, if a bit grim. I would have promoted it, but not de-pinked it. I don't do that because I'm not going to be the guy who fucks it up for everybody.BronzeHammernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-65041126768639877782012-02-01T11:35:28.219-05:002012-02-01T11:35:28.219-05:00Wow, Anonymous, that's spectacularly obnoxious...Wow, Anonymous, that's spectacularly obnoxious. Maybe he just liked the joke.The Voice Of... Well, Non-Stupidity, Anywaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-61316730851747798782012-02-01T11:31:13.907-05:002012-02-01T11:31:13.907-05:00So, anonymous, while I'm sympathetic to your p...So, anonymous, while I'm sympathetic to your position as to the joke in question, there's probably no need to get into Hammerclaw's motive for giving it a +1. Let's stick to ripping on people who aren't here to defend themselves.IMGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01896814779096110550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-12324506152804734902012-02-01T11:17:15.284-05:002012-02-01T11:17:15.284-05:00Fine, you like what you like. But, if that were a ...Fine, you like what you like. But, if that were a pink comment, would you have approved it? If grey, would you have you promoted it? If it came from anyone other than the handful of "established veterans," would you have given it a +1?<br /><br />My guess is "no." As a relatively newly starred commenter, my guess is that you are picking your spots for positive feedback in an attempt to establish yourself with the veterans. I've been there and I get it, but let's at least be honest and acknowledge that this phenomenon drives response rate at least as much as the ninja's vaunted "hey stranger, nice job, here is a +1" idealistic philosophy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-2376598622260455202012-02-01T11:08:49.910-05:002012-02-01T11:08:49.910-05:00I liked it. I'm somewhat of a sucker for shock...I liked it. I'm somewhat of a sucker for shock-value jokes though.<br /><br />I don't think Hatey's joke falls into the same category as an L/R Chinese joke, but that's just me.Sgt. Hammerclawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11503744917145059776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2755499102053199917.post-74315671200450858932012-02-01T11:07:45.725-05:002012-02-01T11:07:45.725-05:00To be clear, my response was to Sgt. Hammerclaw...To be clear, my response was to Sgt. Hammerclaw's +1, not METADAYSPA's +1. Damn, this meta stuff is confusing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com